This is the part I hate the worst about Islam ’cause a Lesbian women was covered to her head and stoned in Iran for just practicing her God Given Nature and science now proves this to be true as well as our closest primate cousin the Bonobo who naturally practices homosexual behavior to alleviate any chance of aggression and violence.. obviously more civilized and Loving God beings than someone who would murder someone like my sister.. But trust me or not.. they WILL feel GOD’s wrath for the ultimate sin of MURDER…
The Muslim should not doubt, even for an instant, that what Allaah has prescribed is wise. He should know that there is great wisdom in what Allaah has commanded and what He has forbidden; it is the straight path and is the only way in which man can be safe and at peace, protecting his honour, his mind and his health, in accordance with the natural disposition (fitrah) with which Allaah has created man.
Some heretics have tried to attack Islam and its rulings; they have denounced divorce and plural marriage and permitted alcohol. Those who look at the state of their societies will see the state of misery which those societies have reached.
When they rejected divorce, murder took its place. When they rejected plural marriage, men started to take mistresses instead. When they allowed alcohol, all kinds of shameful and immoral actions became widespread.
They (gays and lesbians) both go against the natural disposition (fitrah) which Allaah has created in mankind – and also in animals – whereby the male is inclined towards the female, and vice versa.
Whoever goes against that goes against the natural disposition of mankind, the fitrah.
The spread of homosexuality has caused man diseases which neither the east nor the west can deny exist because of them. Even if the only result of this perversion was AIDS – which attacks the immune system in humans – that would be enough.
It also causes the breakup of the family and leads people to give up their work and study because they are preoccupied with these perversions.
Since the prohibition has come from his Lord, the Muslim should not wait until medicine proves that harm befalls the one who does that which Allaah has forbidden. Rather he must believe firmly that Allaah only prescribes that which is good for people, and these modern discoveries should only increase his certainty and confidence in the greatness of Allaah’s wisdom.
Both of them – fornication and homosexuality – involve immorality that goes against the wisdom of Allaah’s creation and commandment. For homosexuality involves innumerable evil and harms, and the one to whom it is done would be better off being killed than having this done to him, because after that he will become so evil and so corrupt that there can be no hope of his being reformed, and all good is lost for him, and he will no longer feel any shame before Allaah or before His creation. The semen of the one who did that to him will act as a poison on his body and soul. The scholars differed as to whether the one to whom it is done will ever enter Paradise. There are two opinions which I heard Shaykh al-Islam (may Allaah have mercy on him) narrate.”
(al-Jawaab al-Kaafi, p. 115).
2. Lesbianism means one woman doing to another something like that which a man does to a woman. Homosexuality means having intercourse with males in the back passage. This was the action of the accursed people of the Prophet of Allaah Loot (peace be upon him). In sharee’ah terminology it refers to inserting the tip of the penis into the anus of a male.
What is mentioned concerning these actions in the Qur’aan and Sunnah:
A – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?
Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins)’”
[al-A’raaf 7:80-81]
B – “Verily, We sent against them a violent storm of stones (which destroyed them all), except the family of Loot (Lot), them We saved in the last hour of the night”
[al-Qamar 54:34 – interpretation of the meaning]
C – “And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?”
[al-A’raaf 7:80 – interpretation of the meaning]
And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘You commit Al‑Faahishah (sodomy the worst sin) which none has preceded you in (committing) it in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)’”
[al-‘Ankaboot 29:28]
D – “And (remember) Loot (Lot), We gave him Hukm (right judgement of the affairs and Prophethood) and (religious) knowledge, and We saved him from the town (folk) who practised Al‑Khabaa’ith (evil, wicked and filthy deeds). Verily, they were a people given to evil, and were Faasiqoon (rebellious, disobedient to Allaah)”
[al-Anbiya’ 21:74 – interpretation of the meaning]
E – “And (remember) Loot (Lot)! When he said to his people, ‘Do you commit Al‑Faahishah (evil, great sin, every kind of unlawful sexual intercourse, sodomy) while you see (one another doing evil without any screen)
Do you practise your lusts on men instead of women? Nay, but you are a people who behave senselessly.’
There was no other answer given by his people except that they said: ‘Drive out the family of Loot (Lot) from your city. Verily, these are men who want to be clean and pure!’
So We saved him and his family, except his wife. We destined her to be of those who remained behind.
And We rained down on them a rain (of stones). So evil was the rain of those who were warned”
[al-Naml 27:54-58 – interpretation of the meaning]
These verses refer to the punishment that befell the people of Loot. With regard to the rulings on them:
F – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning]:
“And the two persons (man and woman) among you who commit illegal sexual intercourse, hurt them both. And if they repent (promise Allaah that they will never repeat, i.e. commit illegal sexual intercourse and other similar sins) and do righteous good deeds, leave them alone. Surely, Allaah is Ever All-Forgiving (the One Who forgives and accepts repentance), (and He is) Most Merciful”
“The words of Allaah ‘And the two persons (man and woman) among you who commit illegal sexual intercourse, hurt them both’ mean, those who commit immoral actions, punish them both. Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him), Sa’eed ibn Jubayr and others said: By condemning them, shaming them and hitting them with shoes. This was the ruling until Allaah abrogated it and replaced it with whipping and stoning. ‘Ikrimah, ‘Ata, al-Hasan and ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Katheer said: This was revealed concerning a man and woman who commit fornication. Al-Saddi said, it was revealed concerning young people before they get married. Mujaahid said: it was revealed concerning two men if they admit it bluntly; a hint is not sufficient – as if he was referring to homosexuality. And Allaah knows best.”
(Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 1/463).
G – It was narrated that Jaabir (may Allaah be pleased with him): “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘There is nothing I fear for my ummah more than the deed of the people of Loot.’”
(Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 1457; Ibn Maajah, 2563. This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) inSaheeh al-Jaami’, no. 1552).
H – It was narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “… cursed is the one who has intercourse with an animal, cursed is the one who does the action of the people of Loot.”
(Narrated by Ahmad, 1878. This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani inSaheeh al-Jaami’, no. 5891).
I – It was narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Whoever you find doing the deed of the people of Loot, kill the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.”
(Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 1456; Abu Dawood, 4462; Ibn Maajah, 2561. This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani inSaheeh al-Jaami’, no. 6589).
Hello Fred!
As I told you before ( the space is wide and life is good)!
My blog is about Islam and koran.
My task is to teach people about Islam and its principles and rules.
Homosexuality and lesbians are against human nature..these acts if spread will destroy the world!
These acts are forbidden in all religions.
Love is connected with sex in your society.
That is why you defend those people…
Stop defending them …you are harming them and harming societies in general..
In this way all religions are ignorant and evil against God’s only law that is Nature and irrefutable in science already that homosexuality IS part of nature no Matter what ignorant men and women think or do and how dare you ask me not to defend my only sister.. God will be ashamed of you friend.. i come to this Earth to speak the truth and no man or woman will stop me as the God of Nature and Laws of God Given Human freedom are behind me…
Your sister is dear to you of course..and all humans should consider each other as sisters and brothers..
You describe as an ignorant…okay thank you….
If science says that homosexuality is natural…
Then science is ignorance…let science go to hell..
Your sis needs to see a psychatrist..do not encourage her to continue in this way…I did not live in your societies and I do not want to speak about personal experiences…I am only convinced that God says that this is forbidden and I obey my God…
A human is granted a brain to think with…
This brain makes him controls his desires….and this is the difference between a human and an animal…
We have to help those odd people instead of encouraging them to continue in that way.
SMiLes.. Trust me.. This is the final proof that Islam or any other religion is not the final word of God.. i already knew and felt of what your reaction would be when this topic came up as it is the same way with many Christians and even Buddhists.. i will ask for God’s forgiveness for all people who Know not what they but that will ultimately be between God the Master and human who can yet figure out how not to overpopulate.. Kill each other.. And destroy the Earth.. Many of God’s children have enough God given empathy and common sense to know the answer is in folks like Elton John and Yellow Brick roads.. In other words.. folks who don’t make babies and do creative works to help humankind.. SMiLes my friend.. it is culture and religion that is the virus.. Not God loving and Living Human beings who Love without fear of God’s Nature.. Truly i feel sorry for you friend but my sister is no ordinary Hunan being.. She is an Angel like my wife and will just giggle at your unwitting cruelty but i for one shed a tear for humans who are ignorant by the hand of culture and or religion..:)
And for here my another sad point is most all of your free spirited American readers will feel the way i do but i venture to say none excerpt gigoid will express it and that is still a problem with the world.. My friend.. People who are afraid to make waves as God is not just a peaceful field.. God makes waves is an atom and pArt Homosexual too.. And Loved Yellow Brick roads too as they teach humans valuable yet difficult lessons..:)
What is mercy?
Mercy is to see my dear sis walking in the dangerous road and do not warn her.
What is cruelty?
Cruelty is to advise people from doing action that may harm their life and health….
Your sis is an angel…okay …I do not object…but she needs help…if you do not help her and people like her…then you are cruel Fred..
Also do no say God will be ashamed of me …you are not God Fred….God judges me not you…
SMiLes we are all part of God and yes parts of God will be ashamed of you for this entire blog post.. i am not ashamed of you as i say i shed a tear for your religious education as in part against God’s Nature and the wrath part.. That will come from other parts of God who are human and not remotely as nice as me as the parts of countries that will eventually destroy this ignorance through weapons of destruction.. i would rather use words my friend but if no one lends a hand.. weapons will speak louder and no i do not like the darker parts of tribal nature and try my best to stay in the Light.. My friend..:)
SMiLes my friend that’s all God has revealed to me at this point and Love can prevent it from happening but only if it is fearless and unconditional..:)
SMiLes my friend.. It’s a revelation from God.. No where close to a threat from me and i always welcome all opinions from you anywhere you go.. SMiLes there is nothing anyone can say to me to hurt me.. As I’ve already been to real hell my friend..:)
SMiLes my friend.. Perhaps God sent me to hell and made me the Devil for a thousand years in one second as that is what God does to make folks fearless.. Anyway.. that is neither here or there now as i live and Love in heaven stay cation.. God’s gift of surviving the ultimate human test.. My friend.. In other words hell and devil iS God’s greaTest test and gift to me.. Let’s juSt say it puts the rest of eternity in perspective of only now iN Heaven.. My friend..:)
Yes.. my friend of course we are different but it is not an east or west or even Muslim issue as i discuss this issue with other Muslim folks with zero arguments but their modern education away from religion may play a part in that my friend as well as realizing science doesn’t belong in hell and is not perfect either.. Anyway… you are free not to respond to my opinions of course at anytime in our discussions.. my friend.. As i come here to speak truth but yes when it comes to actual arguments.. Online history proves i am always the last one standing as God IS behind my voice.. and no of course i do not expect you to believe that as some little Silly Human fleas will think and feel they can shut God up from actually having the last word over human.. God giggles at human fleas my friend.. The history of God’s Nature proves this as irrefutable proof.. As metaphor of course.. Enjoy.. the rest of your Friday.. my Friend.. i am blessed to only work for the God of Nature as truly staycation..:)
Thanks my friend and i Love you… Thanks for being my friend.. And by the way my mother totally agrees with you on this issue but i Love her no less.. another lesSon of devil and hell.. My friend.. As yes.. this applies to all humans present and history as there is no greater evil or dark place than hell and devil.. That’s why the Devil becomes the greaTest Lover ever now.. At least.. My friend..:)
I am afraid y’all continue to defend a set of deliberately delusional statements regarding reality, none of which can be shown to have any evidence to support their existence, to wit: there is a supernatural being responsible for creating all we perceive…. Sorry, it just doesn’t fly, logically, or, in reality.
So, these statements, I am afraid, are delusional, to wit:
Homosexuality and lesbians are against human nature..these acts if spread will “destroy the world!”
Ridiculous…. If you DO believe in a god, then that god made people the way they are, and thus lesbians and homosexuals are just as sacred as anyone else.
Second, the second part of your statement does not logically, or even intuitively, follow from the first part. We have existed on this planet for many thousands of years, and the world is just fine.
“These acts are forbidden in all religions.”
First. not true. There are many religions which make no reference at all to such matters, or accept them as natural as they actually are.
Second, the fact that a religion forbids anything is irrelevant to actual human nature, which is not from a book, or out of someone’s head, but, exists, as we do, just as we are… Of course some forbid it; they forbid people to be fully human, for if they are, they cannot be manipulated, such as y’all have been for your entire lives….
I usually do not invite conflict, for I do not wish to gainsay anyone’s opinion. But, to justify abuse and harm, including murder, in the name of a religion is, to me, the height of hypocrisy. There is NO reason, at all, to abuse another human being, or any other creature what lives…. Period. Any such attempt is nothing more than unwarranted entitlement….. Humans are no more sacred, or important, in any way, than any other form of life. That is reality.
“It is hard to let old beliefs go. They are familiar. We are comfortable with them and have spent years building systems and developing habits that depend on them. Like a man who has worn eyeglasses so long that he forgets he has them on, we forget that the world looks to us the way it does because we have become used to seeing
it that way through a particular set of lenses. Today, however, we need new lenses. And we need to throw the old ones away.” — Kenich Ohmae, The Borderless World
I read this particular post with interest. God taught us that we should love one another. He didn’t say just those who fit into our personal belief system but all. The Bible also says such acts as you speak of here of “an abomination to God…” but this should also be taken in the context of the time period and its views of the time in which it was written. Many verses are snatched out and used on their own and totally out of context to suit a particular belief system. In all honest truth I don’t know what God’s personal thoughts and feelings on the subject you write about, are. I would have to be God to know that. What puzzles me, is that if such people are so dreadful in God/Allah’s eyes, and He created them the same as the rest of us, then WHY?!! If His creation was such an abomnation to him that it was worthy to be stoned to death for example, why allow such a dreadful being to born in the first place or even conceived? Why not destroy that life before it ever came into existence? The 10 commandments tell us “Thou shalt not kill” and we are told to “Love thy neighbour as thyself.” We are called to love all people for as we judge others so will we be judged….I think that would include our condemnation and worse of homosexuals and lesbians. That judgement coming back on us is a scary thought. Sometimes we will come up against things we can never truly understand…we fear them on some level…they are different to us….and what we fear we destroy….do we not? But is that the way of God/Allah? I think not. Only when we go to be with God will everything be explained to us. Until then I think we should all tread very, very carefully! We walk a very fine line between love and hate!
May Allah bless you abundantly this day and lead you always in the light of His love 🙂
Try to get it! 
This is the part I hate the worst about Islam ’cause a Lesbian women was covered to her head and stoned in Iran for just practicing her God Given Nature and science now proves this to be true as well as our closest primate cousin the Bonobo who naturally practices homosexual behavior to alleviate any chance of aggression and violence.. obviously more civilized and Loving God beings than someone who would murder someone like my sister.. But trust me or not.. they WILL feel GOD’s wrath for the ultimate sin of MURDER…
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The Muslim should not doubt, even for an instant, that what Allaah has prescribed is wise. He should know that there is great wisdom in what Allaah has commanded and what He has forbidden; it is the straight path and is the only way in which man can be safe and at peace, protecting his honour, his mind and his health, in accordance with the natural disposition (fitrah) with which Allaah has created man.
Some heretics have tried to attack Islam and its rulings; they have denounced divorce and plural marriage and permitted alcohol. Those who look at the state of their societies will see the state of misery which those societies have reached.
When they rejected divorce, murder took its place. When they rejected plural marriage, men started to take mistresses instead. When they allowed alcohol, all kinds of shameful and immoral actions became widespread.
They (gays and lesbians) both go against the natural disposition (fitrah) which Allaah has created in mankind – and also in animals – whereby the male is inclined towards the female, and vice versa.
Whoever goes against that goes against the natural disposition of mankind, the fitrah.
The spread of homosexuality has caused man diseases which neither the east nor the west can deny exist because of them. Even if the only result of this perversion was AIDS – which attacks the immune system in humans – that would be enough.
It also causes the breakup of the family and leads people to give up their work and study because they are preoccupied with these perversions.
Since the prohibition has come from his Lord, the Muslim should not wait until medicine proves that harm befalls the one who does that which Allaah has forbidden. Rather he must believe firmly that Allaah only prescribes that which is good for people, and these modern discoveries should only increase his certainty and confidence in the greatness of Allaah’s wisdom.
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bn al-Qayyim said:
Both of them – fornication and homosexuality – involve immorality that goes against the wisdom of Allaah’s creation and commandment. For homosexuality involves innumerable evil and harms, and the one to whom it is done would be better off being killed than having this done to him, because after that he will become so evil and so corrupt that there can be no hope of his being reformed, and all good is lost for him, and he will no longer feel any shame before Allaah or before His creation. The semen of the one who did that to him will act as a poison on his body and soul. The scholars differed as to whether the one to whom it is done will ever enter Paradise. There are two opinions which I heard Shaykh al-Islam (may Allaah have mercy on him) narrate.”
(al-Jawaab al-Kaafi, p. 115).
2. Lesbianism means one woman doing to another something like that which a man does to a woman. Homosexuality means having intercourse with males in the back passage. This was the action of the accursed people of the Prophet of Allaah Loot (peace be upon him). In sharee’ah terminology it refers to inserting the tip of the penis into the anus of a male.
What is mentioned concerning these actions in the Qur’aan and Sunnah:
A – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?
Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins)’”
[al-A’raaf 7:80-81]
B – “Verily, We sent against them a violent storm of stones (which destroyed them all), except the family of Loot (Lot), them We saved in the last hour of the night”
[al-Qamar 54:34 – interpretation of the meaning]
C – “And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?”
[al-A’raaf 7:80 – interpretation of the meaning]
And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘You commit Al‑Faahishah (sodomy the worst sin) which none has preceded you in (committing) it in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)’”
[al-‘Ankaboot 29:28]
D – “And (remember) Loot (Lot), We gave him Hukm (right judgement of the affairs and Prophethood) and (religious) knowledge, and We saved him from the town (folk) who practised Al‑Khabaa’ith (evil, wicked and filthy deeds). Verily, they were a people given to evil, and were Faasiqoon (rebellious, disobedient to Allaah)”
[al-Anbiya’ 21:74 – interpretation of the meaning]
E – “And (remember) Loot (Lot)! When he said to his people, ‘Do you commit Al‑Faahishah (evil, great sin, every kind of unlawful sexual intercourse, sodomy) while you see (one another doing evil without any screen)
Do you practise your lusts on men instead of women? Nay, but you are a people who behave senselessly.’
There was no other answer given by his people except that they said: ‘Drive out the family of Loot (Lot) from your city. Verily, these are men who want to be clean and pure!’
So We saved him and his family, except his wife. We destined her to be of those who remained behind.
And We rained down on them a rain (of stones). So evil was the rain of those who were warned”
[al-Naml 27:54-58 – interpretation of the meaning]
These verses refer to the punishment that befell the people of Loot. With regard to the rulings on them:
F – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning]:
“And the two persons (man and woman) among you who commit illegal sexual intercourse, hurt them both. And if they repent (promise Allaah that they will never repeat, i.e. commit illegal sexual intercourse and other similar sins) and do righteous good deeds, leave them alone. Surely, Allaah is Ever All-Forgiving (the One Who forgives and accepts repentance), (and He is) Most Merciful”
[al-Nisa’ 4:16]
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Ibn Katheer said:
“The words of Allaah ‘And the two persons (man and woman) among you who commit illegal sexual intercourse, hurt them both’ mean, those who commit immoral actions, punish them both. Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him), Sa’eed ibn Jubayr and others said: By condemning them, shaming them and hitting them with shoes. This was the ruling until Allaah abrogated it and replaced it with whipping and stoning. ‘Ikrimah, ‘Ata, al-Hasan and ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Katheer said: This was revealed concerning a man and woman who commit fornication. Al-Saddi said, it was revealed concerning young people before they get married. Mujaahid said: it was revealed concerning two men if they admit it bluntly; a hint is not sufficient – as if he was referring to homosexuality. And Allaah knows best.”
(Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 1/463).
G – It was narrated that Jaabir (may Allaah be pleased with him): “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘There is nothing I fear for my ummah more than the deed of the people of Loot.’”
(Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 1457; Ibn Maajah, 2563. This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) inSaheeh al-Jaami’, no. 1552).
H – It was narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “… cursed is the one who has intercourse with an animal, cursed is the one who does the action of the people of Loot.”
(Narrated by Ahmad, 1878. This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani inSaheeh al-Jaami’, no. 5891).
I – It was narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Whoever you find doing the deed of the people of Loot, kill the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.”
(Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 1456; Abu Dawood, 4462; Ibn Maajah, 2561. This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani inSaheeh al-Jaami’, no. 6589).
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Peace be upon you dear Imran!
Thanks a lot for the precious information!
May Allah bless you and protect you!
Have a great day!
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Hello Fred!
As I told you before ( the space is wide and life is good)!
My blog is about Islam and koran.
My task is to teach people about Islam and its principles and rules.
Homosexuality and lesbians are against human nature..these acts if spread will destroy the world!
These acts are forbidden in all religions.
Love is connected with sex in your society.
That is why you defend those people…
Stop defending them …you are harming them and harming societies in general..
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Same to you my Dear sister
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In this way all religions are ignorant and evil against God’s only law that is Nature and irrefutable in science already that homosexuality IS part of nature no Matter what ignorant men and women think or do and how dare you ask me not to defend my only sister.. God will be ashamed of you friend.. i come to this Earth to speak the truth and no man or woman will stop me as the God of Nature and Laws of God Given Human freedom are behind me…
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Your sister is dear to you of course..and all humans should consider each other as sisters and brothers..
You describe as an ignorant…okay thank you….
If science says that homosexuality is natural…
Then science is ignorance…let science go to hell..
Your sis needs to see a psychatrist..do not encourage her to continue in this way…I did not live in your societies and I do not want to speak about personal experiences…I am only convinced that God says that this is forbidden and I obey my God…
A human is granted a brain to think with…
This brain makes him controls his desires….and this is the difference between a human and an animal…
We have to help those odd people instead of encouraging them to continue in that way.
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SMiLes.. Trust me.. This is the final proof that Islam or any other religion is not the final word of God.. i already knew and felt of what your reaction would be when this topic came up as it is the same way with many Christians and even Buddhists.. i will ask for God’s forgiveness for all people who Know not what they but that will ultimately be between God the Master and human who can yet figure out how not to overpopulate.. Kill each other.. And destroy the Earth.. Many of God’s children have enough God given empathy and common sense to know the answer is in folks like Elton John and Yellow Brick roads.. In other words.. folks who don’t make babies and do creative works to help humankind.. SMiLes my friend.. it is culture and religion that is the virus.. Not God loving and Living Human beings who Love without fear of God’s Nature.. Truly i feel sorry for you friend but my sister is no ordinary Hunan being.. She is an Angel like my wife and will just giggle at your unwitting cruelty but i for one shed a tear for humans who are ignorant by the hand of culture and or religion..:)
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And for here my another sad point is most all of your free spirited American readers will feel the way i do but i venture to say none excerpt gigoid will express it and that is still a problem with the world.. My friend.. People who are afraid to make waves as God is not just a peaceful field.. God makes waves is an atom and pArt Homosexual too.. And Loved Yellow Brick roads too as they teach humans valuable yet difficult lessons..:)
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What is mercy?
Mercy is to see my dear sis walking in the dangerous road and do not warn her.
What is cruelty?
Cruelty is to advise people from doing action that may harm their life and health….
Your sis is an angel…okay …I do not object…but she needs help…if you do not help her and people like her…then you are cruel Fred..
Also do no say God will be ashamed of me …you are not God Fred….God judges me not you…
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SMiLes we are all part of God and yes parts of God will be ashamed of you for this entire blog post.. i am not ashamed of you as i say i shed a tear for your religious education as in part against God’s Nature and the wrath part.. That will come from other parts of God who are human and not remotely as nice as me as the parts of countries that will eventually destroy this ignorance through weapons of destruction.. i would rather use words my friend but if no one lends a hand.. weapons will speak louder and no i do not like the darker parts of tribal nature and try my best to stay in the Light.. My friend..:)
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What wespons?
Who will use these weapons?
And against whom?
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SMiLes my friend that’s all God has revealed to me at this point and Love can prevent it from happening but only if it is fearless and unconditional..:)
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I do not understand you Fred!
Are you threatening me !
This is my blog …it is my homeland and I will post anything that I like to post
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SMiLes my friend.. It’s a revelation from God.. No where close to a threat from me and i always welcome all opinions from you anywhere you go.. SMiLes there is nothing anyone can say to me to hurt me.. As I’ve already been to real hell my friend..:)
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Hell???
Why ?
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I think our talk has no use Fred!
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You are the west and I am the east..
We will not meet.
Lets stop these useless arguments!
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SMiLes my friend.. Perhaps God sent me to hell and made me the Devil for a thousand years in one second as that is what God does to make folks fearless.. Anyway.. that is neither here or there now as i live and Love in heaven stay cation.. God’s gift of surviving the ultimate human test.. My friend.. In other words hell and devil iS God’s greaTest test and gift to me.. Let’s juSt say it puts the rest of eternity in perspective of only now iN Heaven.. My friend..:)
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Yes.. my friend of course we are different but it is not an east or west or even Muslim issue as i discuss this issue with other Muslim folks with zero arguments but their modern education away from religion may play a part in that my friend as well as realizing science doesn’t belong in hell and is not perfect either.. Anyway… you are free not to respond to my opinions of course at anytime in our discussions.. my friend.. As i come here to speak truth but yes when it comes to actual arguments.. Online history proves i am always the last one standing as God IS behind my voice.. and no of course i do not expect you to believe that as some little Silly Human fleas will think and feel they can shut God up from actually having the last word over human.. God giggles at human fleas my friend.. The history of God’s Nature proves this as irrefutable proof.. As metaphor of course.. Enjoy.. the rest of your Friday.. my Friend.. i am blessed to only work for the God of Nature as truly staycation..:)
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Have a great day Fred!
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Thanks my friend and i Love you… Thanks for being my friend.. And by the way my mother totally agrees with you on this issue but i Love her no less.. another lesSon of devil and hell.. My friend.. As yes.. this applies to all humans present and history as there is no greater evil or dark place than hell and devil.. That’s why the Devil becomes the greaTest Lover ever now.. At least.. My friend..:)
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I am afraid y’all continue to defend a set of deliberately delusional statements regarding reality, none of which can be shown to have any evidence to support their existence, to wit: there is a supernatural being responsible for creating all we perceive…. Sorry, it just doesn’t fly, logically, or, in reality.
So, these statements, I am afraid, are delusional, to wit:
Homosexuality and lesbians are against human nature..these acts if spread will “destroy the world!”
Ridiculous…. If you DO believe in a god, then that god made people the way they are, and thus lesbians and homosexuals are just as sacred as anyone else.
Second, the second part of your statement does not logically, or even intuitively, follow from the first part. We have existed on this planet for many thousands of years, and the world is just fine.
“These acts are forbidden in all religions.”
First. not true. There are many religions which make no reference at all to such matters, or accept them as natural as they actually are.
Second, the fact that a religion forbids anything is irrelevant to actual human nature, which is not from a book, or out of someone’s head, but, exists, as we do, just as we are… Of course some forbid it; they forbid people to be fully human, for if they are, they cannot be manipulated, such as y’all have been for your entire lives….
I usually do not invite conflict, for I do not wish to gainsay anyone’s opinion. But, to justify abuse and harm, including murder, in the name of a religion is, to me, the height of hypocrisy. There is NO reason, at all, to abuse another human being, or any other creature what lives…. Period. Any such attempt is nothing more than unwarranted entitlement….. Humans are no more sacred, or important, in any way, than any other form of life. That is reality.
With love, and hope for your enlightenment
gigoid, the dubious
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In addendum…
“It is hard to let old beliefs go. They are familiar. We are comfortable with them and have spent years building systems and developing habits that depend on them. Like a man who has worn eyeglasses so long that he forgets he has them on, we forget that the world looks to us the way it does because we have become used to seeing
it that way through a particular set of lenses. Today, however, we need new lenses. And we need to throw the old ones away.” — Kenich Ohmae, The Borderless World
Love
gigoid
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Hi Thumbup:-)
I am just fine !
I hope that every thing is going well with you!
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It’s ok.
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thank you for stopping my blog.
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Welcome
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I read this particular post with interest. God taught us that we should love one another. He didn’t say just those who fit into our personal belief system but all. The Bible also says such acts as you speak of here of “an abomination to God…” but this should also be taken in the context of the time period and its views of the time in which it was written. Many verses are snatched out and used on their own and totally out of context to suit a particular belief system. In all honest truth I don’t know what God’s personal thoughts and feelings on the subject you write about, are. I would have to be God to know that. What puzzles me, is that if such people are so dreadful in God/Allah’s eyes, and He created them the same as the rest of us, then WHY?!! If His creation was such an abomnation to him that it was worthy to be stoned to death for example, why allow such a dreadful being to born in the first place or even conceived? Why not destroy that life before it ever came into existence? The 10 commandments tell us “Thou shalt not kill” and we are told to “Love thy neighbour as thyself.” We are called to love all people for as we judge others so will we be judged….I think that would include our condemnation and worse of homosexuals and lesbians. That judgement coming back on us is a scary thought. Sometimes we will come up against things we can never truly understand…we fear them on some level…they are different to us….and what we fear we destroy….do we not? But is that the way of God/Allah? I think not. Only when we go to be with God will everything be explained to us. Until then I think we should all tread very, very carefully! We walk a very fine line between love and hate!
May Allah bless you abundantly this day and lead you always in the light of His love 🙂
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With thanks! Valuable information!
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